Foundry 2 after Foundation 6?

I found a thread on this topic, but it´s three years old - so it would be nice to get some fresh opinions.

Been a happy user of Foundation for some time, but after F6 launched it has been a struggle. I really love F6 for its cool features, but its learning curve is steep and the use of swatches made a mess in my brain.

Anyone that has tried them all, what is your opinion between the two/three?
(I´m hoping for Foundry2+Thunder&Potion Pack to be like a powerfull hybrid between Foundation1 (user friendly) and Foundation6 (awesome features).

I’ve got both. Foundation 6 is incredibly powerful, BUT with great power comes great complexity. It’s way too much for my 54-yr old brain, and I’ve struggled too. Swatches are a killer feature, but even simple things like positioning content feel way too convoluted to me.

Foundry 2 (and the add on packs) is WAY more accessible to me. It just works.

Case in point - Menus. I tried to replicate a responsive menu in both Foundry & Foundation. Foundry Mega Menu just did everything I needed - top bar on desktop/tablet, and hamburger drop down on mobile - which slid over the top of the page content.

Foundation, I could not get the hamburger to slide over the content, it just pushed it down the page. Swatches are a brilliant idea, no question, but I could not figure out how to make it slide over. Several questions on the F6 forum didn’t get me the answers I needed, so switched back to Foundry.

I LOVE Joe’s work, but it’s written by a (genius) techie for techies. Foundry is for the rest of us. And don’t forget Alloy 3 - I had my blog converted with Droplets and Embeds done for my site in less than 2 hours.

And Adam’s support is second to none - I’m by no means a techie OR a web designer, and he’s always helped resolve any issues I’ve had (99% my fault) without making me feel dumb.

You won’t go wrong with Foundry.

Hope this helps - happy to answer (as best I can) any further queries.

Adam (not THAT one)

EDIT: And the Elixir Graphics YouTube channel has videos explaining pretty much every component stack - well worth a watch to give you a feel of how it all hangs together.


Thank you Adam, your answer helped me out a lot, I just purchased Foundry with Thunder and Potion! Now I can start to play :slight_smile:
Will also look more into Alloy.


Alloy is kind of a CMS. Think it’s a must have


For me it’s the same.

BlockquoteI’ve got both. Foundation 6 is incredibly powerful, BUT with great power comes great complexity. It’s way too much for my 54-yr old brain,

And my brain is much older,


Like you, I found Foundation 6 to be more work. I’m familiar with CSS and understand where Joe is trying to go, but it made working with my site more labor intensive. I tried to do a simple conversion of the existing site from Foundation to Foundation 6 and it was a real slog. I finally, gave up and moved to Foundry. The learning curve was relatively low and the conversion was easy and quick.

All that said, I respect Joe’s RW stacks and the flexibility he is trying to give website developers with F6. It just seems as if he is shifting more of the burden to the website builder. Foundation was an excellent product and I only changed over to Foundry because I suspected Joe would stop supporting Foundation in a year ot two and I didn’t want to go into panic mode at the last moment.


I installed Foundation some time ago and started fooling around with it. I have some great Stacks made by Joe Workman, they are all great solid pieces of work. However, the Foundation learning curve was an issue for me as well.

Foundry (along with Potion and Thunder) makes me happy. It’s so much fun to play with and once you get to know your way around it’s easy as cake to build websites. I should have purchased Foundry a lot sooner, it would have saved me a lot of money.

And as mentioned here before, Adam’s support is top. If you don’t find answers in this community you will be helped anyway.


Adam’s support is simply “Exceptional”


It’s been two days with Foundry and i love it!
Still much to learn (and discover), and that i’m really looking forward to.

I have a lot of questions, but i’ll hold them back for now, the documentation and tutorials has covered most of the answers i’ve seeked so far and it is a nice way for me to learn.

Must not forget to thank all of you for your replies,
the Elixir fourm feels like one of those good places to be :slight_smile: