Let's start talking about Foundry 3 šŸ”„

Looking forward to Foundry 3!

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Cannot wait!!! so exited for Foundry 3.

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ā€¦sounds like Christmasā€¦:wink:

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Weā€™re looking at some of the modularity and speed of Foundry 3 with todayā€™s blog post:

ā€œFoundry is becoming more modular and faster, tooā€

This post also contains the tutorial videos for Foundry 3ā€™s Background and Spacing tools.

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Iā€™m just starting a new project, when are you planning to release Foundry 3??

Youā€™re trying to spoil my surprise @Marcin. :wink:

In all seriousness Iā€™ll be announcing the release date next week, along with information about upgrade pricing and such as well.

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Fabulous new. Two questions:

  1. I am assuming we can continue to run Foundry 2 websites until we can redo them (and if we do) - if so, can we have both versions of Foundry installed on RWC? (That way, I can maintain older websites but build new ones with version 3.)

  2. Iā€™m just about to redo my own website from the ground up and do a new website for a not-for-profit. How soon do you anticipate launching Foundry 3? Iā€™m wondering whether I should wait. I look forward to the release date next week. Hopefully, it wonā€™t be too far into the future, and I can wait.

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And one further question:

will we be able to transfer over Alloy blogs when we do Foundry 3 pages?

Thanks.

Please see this blog post from yesterday: Foundry 3: Reimagined & re-engineered

I canā€™t give you any more information than what Iā€™ve already said above.

I mentioned Alloy in yesterdayā€™s post as well. There will be a small shim tool to allow it to work with Foundry 3. Youā€™ll add that tool to your page and itā€™ll help the two interface with one another. Transferring posts and images isnā€™t something that is related to Foundry though. They simply reside on your server in your Posts and Image Uploads folders.

This is great news.

The timing could not be better because I have been planning a complete re-do of all of my websites into a single ā€˜launch padā€™, so to speak.

Where do I sign?

Glad to hear the timing should work out for you @Phillip. Iā€™m working hard on buttoning things up here, so sit back and enjoy the blog posts and videos. :blush:

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I was wondering how you set the animation with the background tool? My latest site uses the animated banner tool as most of the page on three pages. As I understand many tools are being combined which share a lot of overlap. That makes sense to me since you will buy an add on like Thunder and Potion and some of those tools come with a degree of overlap that could be consolidated.

What animation are you referring to specifically? Something in the video or something in an existing Foundry 2 tool?

What ā€œanimated banner toolā€ are you talking about that youā€™re referencing using on your current site?

In Foundry 2 you use the banner tool go to banner style and pick ā€œanimated gradient color picker.ā€

To me it sounded like you said what would require two tools in Foundry 2 (banner and backdrop) are going to be consolidated?

The ā€œanimated gradient color pickerā€ has been removed. It was a feature that saw hardly any use and was quite processor intensive.

Using the ā€œanimated gradient color pickerā€ does not require two tools. That said, yes, Banner, Backdrop and Jumbotron have gone away and will be replaced by Background. As I stated in my blog post:

ā€œI was very thoughtful about their feature sets, and since everything was being completely re-written, I took this time to prune some features that werenā€™t seeing much use as well as add quite a few more.ā€

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I could make a case for why it is a good feature. I had a list of objectives for my second Foundry site. One of them was to add movement to the page. I felt many websites make pages that are very distracting. I have been to sites where they had multiple videos auto-playing as I was trying to get through an article as one example.

A lot of my goal for making this page was how to have movement on a page to make it more interesting then a static page but finding the balance between not having so much movement that it drives the visitor crazy. This page starts with a 2-3 second reveal animation but after the big animation ended I wanted there to keep that movement going without it distracting the reader. For an example the colors I chose are close on the color wheel so some may barely notice it is changing.

There might be some tweaks to add to this page, like perhaps the cycle duration needs to be closer to 60 seconds instead of 30, but I feel that the basic idea doesnā€™t need to be radically changed. This other page isnā€™t 100% where I want it to be yet but one thing I really like is I put a backdrop tool with a png of 20% opacity in it and you can see the changing color through the image! I at least think that is pretty cool.

For processor intensity I am testing this site on a six year old iMac (which is not one of the fast Pro models), a pretty slow internet connection, and the cheapest entry level iPad my Dad could find at Costco. I think this page loads pretty well on those older and slower devices.

I appreciate that you enjoy the animated gradient feature of the old Banner tool. The good news is the feature still exists in Foundry 2. You can still use it there. It is just not a feature that Iā€™ll be bringing over to Foundry 3.

It just wasnā€™t a feature getting much use, so it is extra code that was always present but being used only a fraction of the time. I truly think the features that the new Background tool has outweigh the loss of this animated gradient feature, even though I know youā€™ll miss it if you decide to use Foundry 3. For that I am sorry.

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In a lot of ways what I like about a feature is that it is not overused too much. I donā€™t just mean this one animation feature in particular but in general too.

Will the functionality that is removed from Foundry 3 get moved to an add-on pack like Thunder or Potion? I would imagine that Foundry 2 will stop working at some point.

No add-on packs for Foundry 3. New functionality will be rolled in updates to Foundry itself.

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I thought Iā€™d take today to answer a few of the questions Iā€™ve seen come through my support inbox over the last few days regarding Foundry 3.

[Q.] Can I use Foundry 2ā€™s tools within Foundry 3?
[A.] No. Foundry 2 and Foundry 3 are completely different under the hood and are based around vastly different versions of Bootstrap. Each versionā€™s tools are not cross compatible with one another. As a result of this Iā€™ve included a lot of the functionality from Foundry 2ā€™s Potion and Thunder add-on packs into Foundry 3ā€™s tools.


[Q.] I have a new site I need to build ASAP! When will Foundry 3 be released?
[A.] Iā€™ll be announcing the release date next week. I promise it will not be a long wait though.


[Q.] Can I buy it early and use the beta?
[A.] No, the beta is not available for sale. Additionally even if it were youā€™d have no documentation to view as Foundry 3ā€™s DOCs have not been published anywhere accessible to the public. Hang in there, it wonā€™t be a long wait.


[Q.] What version of Stacks do I need to be using for Foundry 3?
[A.] Foundry 3 will run in Stacks 4 or 5. That said I highly recommend Stacks 5. The latest version of Stacks allows me to check the macOS version number, among other things, to help customize your experience with things like Toolbox. Additionally the Stacks 5 Smart Groups will help you in organizing your Library of tools.


[Q.] What version of RapidWeaver should I be running for Foundry 3?
[A.] Foundry 3 will work in both RapidWeaver Classic as well as RapidWeaver 8.


[Q.] Can I upgrade my current Foundry 2 site to Foundry 3?
[A.] Foundry 3 has been completely re-engineered from the ground up. Every tool has been re-written from scratch. These changes bring more power and speed to both Foundry and your sites, while maintaining drag-and-drop ease. Because of this, Foundry 3 is not directly backwards compatible with Foundry 2.

But donā€™t fret just yet! Foundry 2 and Foundry 3 safely co-exist in your Stacks library with no problem. This means you can use the latest and greatest Foundry 3 for building new, modern sites, or retooling old ones from the ground up, while still maintaining existing sites with Foundry 2.


[Q.] Will the legacy documentation for Foundry 2 be available still after Foundry 3 launches?
[A.] Yes. Iā€™ve duplicated the Foundry 2 DOCs to their own sub-domain that youā€™ll have access to in the event you need it.


If you have questions relating to anything Iā€™ve shown up to this point let me know. You can shoot me a direct message or post in this thread. That said thereā€™s a lot more to share with
everyone in the coming days.

Hereā€™s a look at the topics for the next few blog posts and videos:

  • Jan. 27, 2023 ā€” ā€œSpeeding up your workflow within Edit Modeā€ + :movie_camera::movie_camera:
  • Jan. 30, 2023 ā€” ā€œFoundryā€™s new color palettes will keep you color coordinatedā€ + :movie_camera:
  • Feb. 01, 2023 ā€” ā€œCraft custom styles for your Foundry-based site using Blacksmithā€ + :movie_camera::movie_camera:
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